[Agda] termination proof problem
Sergei Meshveliani
mechvel at botik.ru
Mon Mar 28 13:47:50 CEST 2016
No.
The problem is
Having certain P : ℕ → Set, P? : Decidable P, and any n : ℕ,
find the first y after n such that P y.
That is one needs to implement in Agda
search : (n : ℕ) → ∃ \y → n < y × P y × IsMinimalSuch y
And it is already type-checked the program for
bound : (n : ℕ) → ∃ \y → n < y × P y
Having this `bound', I program a linear search-through for `search',
where `bound' serves as a counter to prove termination.
The functions for P, P?, bound are simple to type check.
Also P and P' are fast at run-time, assume that they take one tick of
time.
But `bound' is expensive at run-time.
For example, to computing (bound 50) makes a linear search-through
practically unusable -- if it ever applies (bound 50) at run-time.
Concerning all the rest -- see my first letter on the subject.
Being not an expert in constructive mathematics, I understand the case
as follows:
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It is given a terminating algorithm for `bound'. In a linear
search-through with y = n+1, n+2 ..., with checking each (P? y),
the event of (P y) will happen not later than y = bound n.
Hence this search-through is proved terminating.
Hence there is no need to compare y to (bound n) for each current y
at the run-time computation.
One only has to check (P? y). If (yes _), the search stops, otherwise go
to (suc y).
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How to express a similar approach in Agda?
In my attempts, the program applies for each y the comparison
((bound n) - y) to 0, and even a single such comparison spoils
performance when it happens at run-time.
Thanks,
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Sergei
On Mon, 2016-03-28 at 18:37 +0900, Andrea Vezzosi wrote:
> Do you also mean "y < n" ?
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Sergei Meshveliani <mechvel at botik.ru> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2016-03-27 at 23:56 +0400, Sergei Meshveliani wrote:
> >> Can people explain, please, the following subject concerning termination
> >> proof tools?
> >>
> >> Having certain
> >> P : ℕ → Set and P? : Decidable P,
> >>
> >> one needs to implement
> >>
> >> search : (n : ℕ) → ∃ \y → m < y × P y × IsMinimalSuch y
> >>
> >> -- find the first y after m such that P y.
> >> [..]
> >
> >
> > Fixing a typo: replace "m" with "n" in these two lines.
> >
> []
> > ------
> > Sergei
> >
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