[Agda] congruence on dependent types

Dominique Devriese dominique.devriese at cs.kuleuven.be
Fri Jun 21 12:27:55 CEST 2013


I believe that Georges Gonthier mentioned he used this approach as
well in his POPL 2013 talk about the proof of the odd order theorem.

Regards,
Dominique

2013/6/21 Andreas Abel <andreas.abel at ifi.lmu.de>:
> Probably this does not answer your question, but if you wonder how to treat
> ideals <a> in Agda, I would model them as predicates, not as types.
>
>   < a > : C -> Set
>   < a > b = exists \ x -> b == x * a
>
> Basically < a > b is just "a divides b".
>
> If you want to prove that associated a, b give rise to identical ideals, you
> would prove logical equivalence of predicates.
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
>
> On 20.06.13 8:49 PM, Sergei Meshveliani wrote:
>>
>> We wrote
>>
>>>> I knew the meaning of dotted patterns, but decided to avoid them --
>>>> while possible, and see further. I have forgotten of them, and now
>>>> was
>>>> not able to use them in this concrete example.
>>>>
>>>> Further, I have a feeling that something is strange in the Language.
>>>> Suppose that a type
>>>>                       Foo a
>>>>
>>>>    depends on  a : C,  A : Setoid,  C = Carrier A,
>>>>    the equivalence  p : a \~~ b   is proved,
>>>>    f : Foo a  is built,
>>>>    and we need to return  f : Foo b,
>>>>    and also somehow to express that  f : Foo a  can be replaced with
>>>>    f : Foo b    if  a \~~ b.
>>>>
>>>> Can this be expressed in Agda ?
>>
>>
>>> No, you can't prove this for any dependent type `Foo`. If it is true
>>> in your particular case, you will need to prove it specifically for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> To see why it's not true in general, pick any `a : C`, and define
>>>
>>>     Foo : C → Set
>>>     Foo x = a ≡ x
>>>
>>> Now, if you had:
>>>
>>>     cong≈ : (a ≈ b) → Foo a → Foo b
>>>
>>> you could prove:
>>>
>>>     discr : (b : C) → a ≈ b → a ≡ b
>>>     discr b p = cong≈ p refl
>>>
>>> which, abstracted on `a`, would imply that `A` is discrete.
>>
>>
>>
>> There remains a certain deviation of Agda from mathematics.
>> Consider the example.
>> For a  CommutativeMonoid M,  an element  a ∈ M,
>> call a  p-Subsemigroup  <a>   in  M  a semigroup of the set
>>                                                   {x ∙ a | x ∈ M}.
>> Hence  <a> and
>> Hence  <a> and <b>  is the same p-subsemigroup in M  iff
>>                                                    associated a b
>>    where
>>    associated a b =  ∃₂ λ (x y : C) →  (x ∙ a) ≈ b  ×  (y ∙ b) ≈ a
>>
>>    -- that is  a  and  b  divide each other.
>>
>> Hence, if  assoc-a-b : associated a b,  then   f ∈ <a>
>> can be replaced with                           f ∈ <b>
>> in a mathematical proof.
>>
>> Now, it is desirable for an  algebraic domain  to be expressed in Agda as
>> a
>> _dependent type_.  Respectively,  f ∈ <a>  need to correspond to  f :
>> PSSmg a,
>> where  PSSmg a  is the type expressing  <a>.
>>
>> I can express in Agda the  Set of all  p-subsemigroups in M,  and the
>> equality
>> _=pss_  on this set,  with  _=pss_  defined via   associated a b.
>> But for  p : associated a b  the  type checker  will not allow to replace
>> f : PSSmg a  with  f : PSSmg b.
>>
>> Is it possible to add some construct  foo  to the  language  so that the
>> checker
>> would allow to replace  f : PSSmg a  with  f : PSSmg b,  if   p :
>> associated a b
>> and  foo  is set for  PSSmg
>> ?
>>
>> May be, this is rather naive.
>> All right, if this is not possible, still dependent types make a great
>> deal.
>>
>> Here is the implementation for the  Set of all  p-subsemigroups  which I
>> keep in mind:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> module SubsemigroupPack (c l : Level) (M : CommutativeMonoid c l)
>>    where
>>    C   = CommutativeMonoid.Carrier M
>>    _≈_ = CommutativeMonoid._≈_ M
>>    _∙_ = CommutativeMonoid._∙_ M
>>
>>    associated : C → C → Set _                          -- a  and  b
>> divide each other
>>    associated a b =  ∃₂ λ (x y : C) →  (x ∙ a) ≈ b  ×  (y ∙ b) ≈ a
>>    --
>>    -- <a> == <b>  iff  associated a b
>>
>>    record PSSmg (a : C) : Set (c ⊔L l)   -- p-Subsemigroup generated by  a
>>      where
>>      constructor pSSmg
>>
>>      field  factor : C
>>
>>      element : C
>>      element = factor ∙ a
>>
>>      -- Example.  pSSmg 3  : PSSmg 5
>>      --           expresses  15  as an element of the subsemigroup of <5>.
>>
>>      _=s_ : Rel C _
>>      x =s y =  (x ∙ a) ≈ (y ∙ a)
>>
>>    data PSSmgs : Set (c ⊔L l) where          -- the set of p-subsemigroups
>> in M
>>                               pssmg : (a : C) → PSSmg a → PSSmgs
>>
>>    _=pss_ : Rel PSSmgs _
>>    (pssmg a smg) =pss (pssmg b smg') =  associated a b
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> So a p-subsemigroup  <a>  is a type, and it can be made a Semigroup, and
>> a program can compute over  <a>.
>> And also a program can compare <a> and <b>, and to have the Setoid of
>> p-subsemigroups in M.
>> And there remains this difference:
>>
>> What to add to the language in order to make this possible:
>>     postulate p0 :  extSmg@(pssmg a smg) =pss extSmg'@(pssmg b smg')
>>     postulate f  :  smg
>>     g : smg'
>>     g = f
>> ?
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